# Episode 107
**Summary:** In Episode #107 Ari shares a wonderful conversation with John Lee Dumas of _[Entrepreneur On Fire](http://www.entrepreneuronfire.com/)_, a 7-day a week podcast featuring interviews with successful and inspiring entrepreneurs. During the interview, Ari and John share some of the secrets behind the formation of their respective podcasts, as well as what they feel contributes to a successful show.
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**Time Stamped Show Notes:**
– 17:00 – Introduction of the _Entrepreneur on Fire_; John Lee Dumas
– 17:38 – John shares the story of how he transitioned from the life of “an army guy” to the life of a podcaster
– 18:08 – John tried a number of different careers between the ages of 26 and 32 before finding his niche
– 19:43 – The importance and difficulty of sourcing interviews for a 7-day a week podcast
– 21:40 – John had 40 episodes recorded and edited _before _going on iTunes
– 23:10 – John has remained consistent in his interview format throughout his 750+ recordings
– 24:39 – Explanation of why John publishes the EOF revenue publically on his website
– 28:27 – The process of making the _Entrepreneur On Fire_ podcast
– 32:15 – Why John chose to _not_ do transcripts
– 33:55 – Besides podcasting, John also does mentoring and runs a mastermind class
– 37:50 – John’s Top 3 Tips for Being More Effective
– 38:00 – Use _[Schedule Once](http://www.scheduleonce.com/)_, a digital scheduling tool
– 38:36 – The_ [Pomodoro Technique](http://pomodorotechnique.com/)_
– 39:07 – Skype – 39:50 – [EOFire.com](http://www.entrepreneuronfire.com/)
**7 Key Points:**
- It’s OK to wander and drift…without doing so, it’s that much more difficult to find a passion
- When first getting started in any new venture, particularly podcasting, allow yourself a buffer
- Do not commit to a lifestyle where you are forced to talk to people you don’t want to talk to, about things you don’t want to talk about
- The road to success is not easy, it requires commitment and resilience
- Find a strategy for success and then be consistent
- Transparency – whether it pertains to success or failure – can be a powerful motivator
- Use technology tactfully to improve efficiency
**Resources Mentioned:**
– [Oh, The Places You’ll Go](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh,_the_Places_You%27ll_Go!) – Famous Dr. Seuss book
– [Impossible](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1181257820/impossible-0) – A Kickstarter for the _first _electric bicycle that will fit in a backpack
– [NYC City Bike Share](https://www.citibikenyc.com/) – A public bike sharing program in New York City
– [CityMapper](https://citymapper.com/) – An app that will show you traveling times for walking, biking and public transit in real-time
– [Conspire](https://www.conspire.com/welcome) – An app that shows people the _best _path to getting in touch with others, _without_sending a contact request
– [Print Hug](https://www.printhug.com/) – An IFTTT-ready app that all — Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/lessdoing/message
